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Patlockley

I was at a meeting today with the really open university, and some one told me that the OCW model MIT employ is neo-liberal.

I didn't go on one protest march because I felt, pragmatically, that working on open attribute code would achieve more.

I can't see how encouraging learning material going online is bad unless it's proposed as mutually exclusive to other models. Is Wikipedia wrong? Or is just an academically written wikipedia wrong?

The dreaming spires are a fordist model, and a poorly implemented one at that. It's future is infinitely more in its own hands than it is at risk by a video being online. If you give people a choice, and people choose something else then so be it.

Nothing lives in a museum, it just dies slowly, and under control.

Amber Thomas

Hi Pat. I think the dreaming spires were an elitist model at a point in history when there weren't many other options. I'm all for the democratisation of knowledge, good point, I didn't mean to imply that's not worthwhile. And open content is *always* good. What I don't like is the assumption that if we share the content then the learners will learn. Aside from a small minority of self-motivated skilled learners, people need more than content to learn. So democratisation of content doesn't equate to some kind of alternative education system. In my (not very) humble opinion.

Pat Parslow

All fair points, I think.
My answers to your unanswered questions would be:
Is it important to find new ways of stretching the very able? Yes.
Is it urgent to find new social learning models for well educated self motivated learners? Important, yes, urgent, possibly not.
Are degrees as important as school level qualifications for improving class diversity in the workplace?
Is class diversity in the workplace a particular problem? It hasn't been in the places I have worked.
Are learners who have laptops, mobile phones, web2.0 skills, professional networks and the motivation and time to learn really the priority here?
I don't think it is fair to lump these together. But, no, not the priority (and especially not particularly branded mobile phones, for instance). But if these things are useful in promoting learning, perhaps making sure everyone has access to them is a priority?

At a time when the very notion of state-funded education is under attack, is it really a good idea to go about presenting the break-up of the education system as an opportunity to try out risky ideas?
Yes, as an alternative and because otherwise it may be too late to salvage the best of the state-funded education even as part of a new 'risky idea'. But that shouldn't take away from fighting to keep and improve the state system.

At a time when the UK government thinks that unpaid amateurs can do the work of paid professionals, in “the big society”, is it really a good idea to build a shadow system of unpaid work, reliant on the cognitive surplus of people in the pay of the at-risk state education system (if we can even dare to call HE state system any more)
Only if the model can be designed to safeguard the livings of those with the cognitive surplus.

By the way, it didn't read as angry, more very concerned :-)

Liam

I think this is the first time that I've ever commented on a blog, but I am because I agree with you and I worry about precisely the same things you do. Well written and said.

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